To some commentators (David Bentley Hart and C.C. Pecknold, for example), there are fundamental and perhaps irreconcilable differences between libertarian politics and Christian convictions. One of the current controversies concerns proposals for the government to ban pornography.
Pecknold made the case recently in the Catholic Herald, and he refers readers to Ross Douthat’s February 2010 New York Times proposal to ban pornography. According to social and religious conservatives, the libertarian exaltation — and I use that word deliberately — of the individual and the conviction that people should be allowed to do Anything That’s Peaceful is at odds with individual and social flourishing.
Even if we assume pornography is an unalloyed bad, the case for banning it is pretty weak. Just as it’s a mistake to think that we will solve or even substantially reduce the problems stemming from alcohol, tobacco, and firearms by outlawing alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, we have to follow Thomas Sowell and ask, “And then what happens?” after we have made our policy that is supposed to fix a great social problem. Even if a ban accomplishes its intended consequences, we have to be mindful of the unintended consequences. When we change the rules, we change people’s incentives — and the unintended consequences of those changes can be worse than the problem we’ve set out to fix in the first place.
First, pornography is a very specific vice with a lot of evil substitutes. One of those substitutes is violence, sexual or possibly otherwise. There is evidence to suggest that the diffusion of pornography reduced divorce and rape, just as there is evidence that violent movies have been a substitute for actual violence. Obviously, this isn’t to suggest that pornography is good. Rather, it is merely to suggest that a liberal approach to pornography might be the least bad of our very imperfect options.
Second, there is the intractable problem of definition. “I know it when I see it,” as Justice Potter Stewart said, is not a particularly helpful way to think about a standard for punishing vice. “Pornography” is in the eye of the beholder, and trusting lawyers and judges to define legal transgressions when no one is obviously violating another person’s rights lends itself to confusion and possibly arbitrariness.
Third, there are the resources people will inevitably waste trying to find ways to obey the letter of the law while circumventing its spirit. In 1999, a strip club in Casselberry, Florida, exploited a loophole in a public-decency law that exempted “bona fide” theatrical performances from prohibitions on nudity by staging a nude version of a scene from Macbeth (fair is foul, and foul is fair, indeed, methinks). How many serious crimes go unsolved every year because regulators, officials, and police departments get caught up in these endless cat-and-mouse games where a government passes a law, someone finds a way around it, a government passes a new law to “close the loophole,” someone else finds a way around that law, and so on?
Fourth, prohibition will drive pornography underground, where it will be provided by people with a comparative advantage in evil. Banning pornography would almost certainly increase illicit sex trafficking. California requirements that performers use condoms, for example, simply encouraged producers to move to other jurisdictions.
The disasters that are alcohol and drug prohibition teach important lessons about policy failures. In 2008, the Institute of Economic Affairs in London published a volume of studies on Prohibitions and their unintended consequences You can download the PDF here. The volume even included a chapter on pornography by legal scholar and former ACLU president Nadine Strossen.
Finally, prohibitions require new rules and new organizations to enforce them. We might applaud them because they will be used to solve a well-defined and agreed-upon social problem, but we have to beware of the potential that these new rules and organizations could be used to suppress speech and expression of which the anti-pornography activists approve.
This is more than a detail: power attracts people who crave it — or at least people who have no compunction about using it. It is rare to find an argument for prohibition that treats this seriously and soberly. Any plan — and prohibitions fall in this category — that only works if it is administered by the right people or that only works if people suddenly become significantly more moral probably won’t work as intended.
Keep in mind, too, that there is nothing new about the problem of suppressing vice in society. Thomas Aquinas provided the following answer: the attempt to use the law to create a society of perfect virtue risks creating even greater evils than the one you are suppressing.
Sometimes, people use liberty badly. They buy, eat, and watch things that are bad for the body and bad for the soul. To paraphrase Sheldon Richman, however, just because some people cannot be trusted with liberty does not mean other people can be trusted with power. Even if pornography is a big social problem and even if we think government power can be a force for good, the case for pornography prohibition remains pretty weak: to “solve” one problem means creating a lot of other problems. This is yet another case in which it’s by no means clear that the cure is better than the disease.
READER COMMENTS
Henry
Jan 7 2020 at 11:18am
What are the anti-porn people worried about? Teenage pregnancy rates are down. Violent crime like rape and murder are down. Open prostitution is much less visible than a few years ago in my town, and urban areas that were full of XXX movie theaters and peep shows like the Combat Zone in Boston and similar areas in many towns big and small have changed dramatically. Is Mr. Douthat too young to have walked in Times Square around 1977? The reality is that Victorian London where dirty pictures could have gotten you arrested was full of prostitutes.
I have read claims that pornography is addictive. I look forward to ADA protection for the addicts.
robc
Jan 7 2020 at 1:45pm
Church membership, maybe.
Mainline protestantism is getting killed. Evangelical churches are fairly stable, as are catholic numbers.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2019/march/evangelical-nones-mainline-us-general-social-survey-gss.html
nobody.really
Jan 7 2020 at 6:25pm
Hard to know how much religion has to do with views of pornography.
But the graph suggests that pretty much every category of religious affiliation has declined over the past 25 years except for the Nones.
Historically, Mainline Protestantism was the church of the upwardly mobile, and they added members as lower-status people sought to move up in the world. The working-class Catholic and Knights of Columbus member would get promoted to supervisor, move to the tonier part of town, and join the local Episcopal church and the Rotary Club. Today, upwardly mobile people no longer feel the need to join these organizations–and the organizations have been withering.
Which is not to say that Catholics have not been losing members; far from it. But their losses have been partially offset by a steady influx of Hispanic immigrants. In 1991, roughly 90% of American Catholics were white non-Hispanic. Today it’s 55%–and most American Catholics under 30 are Hispanic. But with new efforts to limit immigration, I expect to see a steeper decline in Catholic membership.
nobody.really
Jan 7 2020 at 1:55pm
“The female-friendly (or -unfriendly) version of the [thong] made its appearance in the 1939 World’s Fair. It wasn’t just a novelty item, as most of the gadgets at the World’s Fair would have been. It was a requirement. The mayor of New York, Fiorello La Guardia, ordered nude dancers at the fair to cover up. Burlesque dancers at the time were savvy enough to realize that too much coverage would be a disservice to their profession. By creating a G-string, they were able to continue flaunting their butt cheeks while also technically obeying Mayor La Guardia’s dictate.”
Phil H
Jan 7 2020 at 3:32pm
I just want to comment on the particular weakness – in fact, wrongness – of one of the arguments offered here:
“Fourth, prohibition will drive pornography underground”
I suppose this is true of anything, but why would that be bad? Is driving murder underground bad? Is it bad that theft is an underground activity? The claim about “driving underground” is usually something like: the activity that has been banned will carry on at the same level, but in a more harmful way. But this claim is almost always untrue. Banning something reduces its occurrence. Maybe not to zero, but it definitely reduces it. The additional harm is unclear – the condom example in the text certainly isn’t additional harm.
Chris
Jan 7 2020 at 4:20pm
Phil,
I believe that the argument is correct and here are two reasons:
Currently there are rules, regulations and performer protections for those in the industry that make it relatively safe for those involved. Additionally, because it is legal, funding and distribution take place through legitimate, legal channels. Making it illegal will not reduce the demand or profitability of pornography so we can assume that a great deal of it will still be produced, even if it’s less than now.
The people involved in these productions will no longer have protections or regulations, and will be at significant risk of disease, mistreatment without recourse, and financial exploitation. They will no longer have the recourse of the law to keep the industry in check and will be at legal risk for even reporting incidents, which will make it difficult to prove innocence if they are coerced, forced or tricked into being in a distributed video or image.
Financially, money for production will come from somewhere. Currently, I assume it is like any media production with a backer and profits to recoup costs, all (or most) of which is taxed and trackable by the government. When it goes underground, the source of funding will be hidden and the profits will be laundered. As legitimate funding sources shy away, illegal sources will start to fill the void.
The illegality will also encourage consumers to look for sources in places where other, much worse activity takes place, such as the dark web where it will sit alongside drug and arms sales, terrorist recruiting content and whatever else is illegal but profitable. Similar to the performers, consumers will face a much more serious risk of blackmail, computer viruses and extortion without legal recourse.
So, in the end, you will have lured a bunch of impressionable teen and twenty-something boys into a dark area of the internet, encouraged significantly worse exploitation of young women, and hidden an entire industry from government taxation and oversite.
Honestly, beyond all of the issues noted above, the ambiguity of what pornography is will always be the downfall of these kinds of laws. Without being able to define the line of legality, how are people supposed to know what is allowed? Is softporn allowed? Is Game of Thrones allowed? Are romance novels allowed? If someone posts a sexted image to Reddit, are Reddit, its advertisers, the poster and the person in the image all legally liable? Who gets to decide all of this and for what reason is the line here and not there? Are we worried about exploitation of those in the pornography, the morality decline of consumers, or some objective societal issue that it is supposed to be causing? Because the way to address each of those possible issues is far different from each other, and a ban doesn’t seem to truly address any of them. Without an objective basis for the law, it won’t stand a chance in court in the long run and in the short run will arbitrarily upend a huge number of people’s lives.
Jon Murphy
Jan 7 2020 at 5:02pm
He answers that in the second part of the sentence: “where it will be provided by people with a comparative advantage in evil. ”
Pornography is a peaceful activity. Make it illegal, and you make it an unpeaceful activity.
Phil H
Jan 7 2020 at 7:16pm
Thanks, both of you, for those replies. I actually agree that porn should not be banned. I just think that AC’s argument 4 is a terrible one that can’t persuade anyone who doesn’t already agree with us. To see why, look at how both Chris and Jon constructed it:
Chris: “…regulations and performer protections…make it relatively safe for those involved…Currently, I assume it is like any media production”
Jon: “Pornography is a peaceful activity.”
These are positions that see porn as fundamentally OK. But the people who want to ban it *don’t think that*. They don’t think the performers are safe. They don’t believe that porn is “peaceful”, because even if it’s not violent (and seriously, have you watched any internet porn? What’s with all the strangling of the female performers?), it is doing terrible moral harm to those involved and to the people who watch it (that’s one common argument – I’m sure there are others).
If we’re constructing arguments that might possibly persuade the other side, we can’t start by demanding our own premise! It’s begging the question.
This seems to apply generally to all “drive it underground” arguments. If you think the activity is fundamentally bad to start with, I can’t see how a “drive it underground” argument would persuade you.
Bill Smith
Jan 7 2020 at 6:14pm
Surely there is a middle ground here. There is a huge gulf between a complete ban and what we have now, which is a free-for-all. And I use that word deliberately. Porn is literally free for all, including for minor children. No pay wall. No age verification. Nothing.
The arguments against protecting children from porn are weak to non-existent, placing all the burden on parents in an increasingly online world.
A middle ground that will not satisfy zealots from either side (a good indicator it is a good middle-ground solution) but will add protection for children is to require all porn that is not behind a firewall to be moved to a .xxx domain so it can be readily blocked by those who want to block it: parents and employers.
And please stop with the idea that we cannot readily identify what porn is. There are gray areas when we categorize most anything. But that there might be a 0.0001% disagreement on classifying something does not mean we cannot classify the other 99.9999%. Claiming otherwise is sophistry of a libertarian zealots.
James
Jan 8 2020 at 12:21am
I think conservatives could do a better job advocating for a ban on pornography if they would be clearer about the extent to which they think other people’s freedom should be reduced to make a porn ban actually work. In prisons, the government has full control of everything that comes in or out and yet the government has not successfully managed to eliminate porn in prison (or drugs, or alcohol, etc.) If some conservative was intellectually honest enough to say that ordinary citizens should have even less freedoms than inmates in a penitentiary in order to make a porn ban actually work, that would at least be the start of a coherent, if misguided, position.
Lawrence Glenn
Jan 8 2020 at 10:30am
A fine rendering of social engineers but you forgot one extremely important point. Ineluctably, those enforcing bans are corrupted by those being banned. Baptists and bootleggers have a natural affinity for one another.
JdL
Jan 9 2020 at 5:30am
The author argues well. My problem with porn-haters is that I can’t see anything at all wrong with pornography. I don’t even see an issue with curious children accessing it. The entire “problem” in my view is with adults who aren’t comfortable with their own sexuality and are frightened by anything that stimulates it. They project their own hang-ups onto others and turn into sanctimonious control-freaks. Their ideas need to be rejected altogether.
Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan
Jan 10 2020 at 12:31am
The consequences most often called “unintended” are
unacknowledged consequences that have repeatedly been clearly predicted and explained, and have inevitably followed. We owe it to the victims to stop giving the perpetrators moral cover by joining them in the pretense of their innocence.
Adam Kolasinski
Jan 15 2020 at 3:43pm
This passage from Aquinas seems relevant:
“Accordingly in human government also, those who are in authority, rightly tolerate certain evils, lest certain goods be lost, or certain greater evils be incurred: thus Augustine says (De Ordine ii, 4): ‘If you do away with harlots, the world will be convulsed with lust.'”
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/aquinas/summa.SS_Q10_A11.html
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